
A familiar face and voice, Rachel is Head of Podcasts for Nova Entertainment, a regular guest co-host on Network Tenās The Project and a podcasting expert.
Rachel has spent two decades working professionally in media, specialising in podcasting and radio. She is a jack of all trades, an audio expert, having worked in front of the mic hosting and producing radio shows for some of the biggest networks in Australia, as well as being at the helm of over ten podcasts including Google Australiaās first podcast, Rethink. Behind the scenes, Rachel has worked as Head of Podcasts for two major audio networks.
I went to ĢĒŠÄ“«Ć½ for 15 years, from Branxton all the way through to graduating in 1998. By the end of my time there, I was ready to leave because I was conscious of that world being very small. I wanted to experience different perspectives, so I was very excited about going to university.
In terms of what I wanted to do after school, just the other day while I was cleaning out my Dadās garage, I found a letter Iād written to myself when I was 16. In that letter, I asked myself if Iād gotten into Commerce Law at Sydney University. Funnily enough, once I got into university and sat in my first Law class, I realised that I hadnāt chosen the right course [laughs]. Getting into Law was the goal for most of my senior school years. Part of me wonders whether I chose Law because that was what was drummed into us at school? We were to aim for a high mark and then do the course that high mark got you into, rather than choosing what you wanted to do.
I do remember that I wanted to study photography, but I ended up not doing it because I got a high UAI and I wanted to do something associated with that. The benefit of that approach was that it made me strive for the best thing that I could do. Iām glad that I went down the path that I did because I wouldnāt have ended up where I am now. I ended up finishing Commerce, and I finished all but one year of my Law degree.
I worked in radio for over a decade. My time in radio was positive, in that I had ended up in a space where I had a skill for something. I wasnāt good at it in the beginning, and it took me a while to get good at it, but I had a natural skill for it. I hadnāt necessarily planned for a career in that space.
The problem, though, is that you start to rely on an industry which has no sense of commitment to you. I always felt that my life was in someone elseās hands. When my last contract wrapped up, it was sad because I loved working in radio, but at the same time, it was a relief. Even though I had to start from scratch again, I realised that I wanted to be in control of my life and have greater stability.
In the media industry, just because youāre the best person for the job doesnāt necessarily mean that you will get the job. Many times Iāve had bosses say to me āYou are the best person for this job, but you donāt have a big enough profileā. That just didnāt make sense to me because throughout my schooling, I had been taught that you work hard, you get good at something, you improve, and you move up in the world. But thatās not how things work in the media.
The second sort of phase of my career took a long time to drum up. Now Iām running a podcast network for a major radio station, and I work professionally on television. When people ask how I got to this point, I tell them that I pushed myself for many tough years. I was out of full-time work for four years, and in that time, I was doing everything. Door knocking, copywriting for people, going back to university.
Once Iād started my own business - which took a long time to build up - and Iād established myself publicly as an expert in podcasting, then Mamamia came to me and asked me to run the network. Now Iāve left that, and Iām doing a similar thing for Nova.
It took a long time to get to this point, but I feel like now Iāve ended up working in a space where I feel safer and requires the perfect mix of all of my skills. Iām able to influence the people who are working for me to ensure that they have a better experience in terms of mentorship than I ever did in this industry. Interestingly, Iāve ended up back in radio, and Iāve gone full circle in that sense.
I donāt think there have been any mistakes. Thereās been stuff that hasnāt worked out or has been difficult, but I don't see them as mistakes.
Thatās because Iām a āyesā person. I think the only things that Iāve ever regretted was when Iāve said no to opportunities. So now I make a real point of saying yes to everything unless I know that itās not right for me. If an opportunity is presented to me that Iām a bit scared about I just make myself say yes to it. I think itās as important to cross things off and realise that theyāre not what you want to do, as it is to try something and realise that itās just right for you.
My mum used to say to me that I could be anything that I wanted to be and do anything that I wanted to do. For a long time, I used to dislike that advice because I just wanted her to tell me that I could only choose one career. I saw having too many options as a bad thing. Now that Iāve gotten through all that Iām grateful for her advice.
I wish Iād had more mentors that had given me good advice. Instead, Iāve watched what people do, I see what I like, and I try to inject that into me. I worked for one of my earliest bosses - Malcolm Fayers - at his business when I was out of school. I took on board how he treated the people who worked for him with respect; he looked out for them. Iāve never forgotten how important it is to treat the people that work for you like human beings, with respect and give them autonomy. If they feel seen and heard thereās nothing they wonāt do for you; theyāll go into battle for you. Youāre always going to get more out of people if itās a two-way relationship. I think that experience has informed how I manage my team now.
The thing Iām most proud of myself for is looking after my folks as they got older and faced illness.
Looking after my mum was a game-changer for me; I changed fundamentally, as a person through the experience. Thereās something extraordinary about the sense of comfort you get from helping somebody who is in an awful place. There was something different that shifted in our relationship at that time. Her seeing me as someone she could rely on and someone that she felt comfortable around, especially when she was in discomfort. Iāve never been happier than coming out of the other side of that experience.
Doing the same thing for my father, right now, while itās difficult, there is something to be said for pushing through. Those have been my proudest moments because Iām really glad that I did that. Certainly, when my mum passed away, I had no regret. I miss her terribly, but I know I gave her everything I could, and I know that has helped me to move on in my life. Now I feel like sheās with me all the time.
Itās going to be okay. I struggled for most of my 20s with not being able to sit still at the moment. I was always thinking Iām not there yet, what else can I do and I felt like things werenāt moving fast enough. A lot of that had to do with struggles with relationships at home, which made me feel unsettled. I am only now starting to shift from the mindset that I have to achieve all the time. Itās very exhausting. You can still have drive and not have to be on the hamster wheel all the time.
I would say to my younger self that you donāt have to stop having drive but try to be in the moment more and realise that what you have right now is enough. I never really recognised what I had right in front of me. So I would tell my younger self to chill out!
I think ĢĒŠÄ“«Ć½ encourages you to be an overachiever because thatās the standard that is expected, and you want to rise to that. Thereās real merit in that. Youāre not going to achieve all the time but just giving things a red hot crack is an excellent quality in life.
I truly feel now that Iām really happy with my life. Over the last eight years, Iāve started to settle into where Iām supposed to be. That is because of the mindset that ĢĒŠÄ“«Ć½ instilled in me from the very beginning, and I wouldnāt be where I am now without that mindset. I think that was invaluable.
ĢĒŠÄ“«Ć½ sets you up to be open to trying new things. I was never terribly good at anything [laughs] but I was okay at everything. I never really excelled but I think thereās merit in that too - you donāt have to be excellent at everything, but if you can try new things, I think when you move on in life having that approach makes you a more well-rounded person.
Iām most appreciative of the fact that you could have any number of activities up on a wall - all you had to was write your name down on that corresponding list - and youād be able to do it. Iām sure that was much to my parentās frustration because there was a payment associated with every one of them [laughs]. But for somebody like me, who likes to give things a crack and try new things, that environment was amazing.
I remember in my later years of school Mrs Bowie was a great source of comfort to me. She was someone that I would always go to for advice, and she had the most impact on me later on in my life. I respected her.
Of course, I had Mrs Smyth in Junior School. I think we all wanted Mrs Smyth to be our mum; it was just impossible not to love her. I had Mrs Hayes in Year 5; she was such a wonderful woman. I still remember little sayings and things that she taught us - āOne thous-and met-res in a kilo-met-reā. She also always used to say āslow and steady wins the raceā. There was one saying that I even used the other day in a promotional video - I even credited her!
And then there was choir: Chamber Choir and Madrigal. All of those years, all of those people, Iām tearing up even thinking about it. I just loved it! I loved the sense of discipline; I loved that we were there every single morning, there was something that we were working towards, we had a goal all the time, we were trying to win these eisteddfods. Weād find something to do well and be the best at it. I think that powerful sense of team and community; I found that in choir. All of my best memories in school revolve around being in choir.
Keen to start your own podcast but not sure where to start? Check out Rachelās online course PODSCHOOL. You can see Rachel each Tuesday night on Network Tenās The Project.
Rachel Corbett | Class of 1998 | School Captain | House: Anderson